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impure_tale ([personal profile] impure_tale) wrote2012-06-01 08:24 pm

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This was really much easier when I was an Inmate and not surrounded by so many horrifically jaded people. Now that I'm respectable and graduated, you people act as though you are accepting of my faults and particularities.

Rob an old man of his fun, why don't you?

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[And the Marquis' demeanor shifts with surprising suddenness. Whereas a second before, on the public filter he was his usual, quipping, playful self, he now just looks very tired -- not even just tired, more like he hasn't slept a wink.]

Many of the people that we came against in that port -- perhaps not a vast majority, but many -- are now dead. I cannot account for those that any of you or your Inmates encountered, but I can say that the last time I saw with my own eyes so many men die so quickly and in succession, without the defiances of reality that the Barge affords, it was on the front lines of an actual battle, and these were men that fell to rifles, bayonets and canons, wielded by countless others. Their ends did not come at the hands of a wicked minority.

Those are the horrors that make up my darkest writings.

...Though I will admit, my tales tended to involve more nudity and fewer costumes. [An odd pause, as he looks at something beyond the camera, and he murmurs more to himself] There is something still very--

[And he lets that thought drop. Shakes his head. Continues]

Somehow, I suspect that some of you, or at least your Inmates, did not even bat an eye. I know that mine did not.

I am not asking for advice, merely opinions, personal experiences. What do you, as Wardens, do when the use of Level Zero will serve no real purpose?

(ooc: Since the return to port the Marquis has not ventured out often, save to walk Renate, and he hasn't spoken to anyone or taken visitors.)
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[personal profile] buywithme 2012-06-02 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that Level Zero has ever really served a purpose when it comes to the execution of great crimes. It might make an inmate think twice before starting a fight or robbing from a friend, but once they set their mind to do some real damage, they have already weighed up their desire to do this thing against any kind of punishment.

A lot of them are only here because they went into great crimes while knowing that eventually, death would likely be the cost of their actions.

What I do with Barron, Comrade, is try to make him relate back what he has done to himself. With his taking of other people's memories, we made a list together, of things that he remembered since we came to the barge. Good things, and bad things, and things that we had done together. Then we played a game, where one by one, we took them away at random.

Since normally he doesn't have any recollection of what he's lost, he doesn't have a concept of what he's losing, or what he's doing to other people when he changes their memories. So doing this is a way of building that understanding of what he's doing, and building some empathy for having done it to other people.
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[personal profile] most_feared 2012-06-02 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I never put Cooper in Zero. It never seemed like it would help much. I just took his weapon away until he could use it more responsibly and gave it back when he needed it.

Do you wanna punish him or do you want to show him that it bothers you and that the people around you are relevant to how you handle a situation? [Genuine question.]
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[personal profile] umgekehrt 2012-06-02 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
[Stildyne is worried but not asking... yet.]

There's times when Zero's nothing more than a political gesture; as if to say 'look, I'm doing something'. Actual punishment...

It was hard, with Brax, to know what it was that he hadn't already resigned himself to giving up. But there's usually something.

[Even if you've got a rabid dog on your hands, he doesn't say.]
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[personal profile] creatingalegacy 2012-06-02 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
[Amanda's quiet for a moment. She doesn't like the Marquis, but this question has actually given her some pause.]

I've never had to punish Lua, not even with Level 0. I don't know what I would do.
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[personal profile] umgekehrt 2012-06-02 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
And when it isn't...

[He shakes his head.] I tend to think anyone still breathing has something they give a damn for. Finding it has been a trial.
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[personal profile] creatingalegacy 2012-06-02 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
She's very sweet. Her life...she and I have gone through some similar shit. I understand where she's coming from. I don't know all of her past wardens too well, but I think they must've given her an ultimatum that would be completely impossible for people like us.

Sarah made me realize that I didn't need to choose between loving someone and repudiating their actions. I only hope that I'm getting through to her as well.
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[personal profile] hungryanhorny 2012-06-02 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
Don't look at me; nearly got my ass handed to me out there trying not kill.
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[personal profile] most_feared 2012-06-02 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
[To mention that he doesn't really feel bad when killing people? No. Never can do it because people are never comfortable with it.

But he knows that it might help out here.]

I know it's gotta be frustrating. You want this guy to care about what he does to people. But I don't think he's going to, not like a normal person.

If you ever want to talk about it, I'll keep a line open for you.

[That's about as forthcoming about it as he's able to get, but he guesses the Marquis will be alright.]
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[personal profile] doctor_j_crane 2012-06-02 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they're just being polite.
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[personal profile] scentbombed 2012-06-02 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually chose not to send that new vampire girl -- Willow -- to Zero, after I had her brought to the infirmary... and after the fact, another warden brought up the same idea with me. I had thought I might, once she recovered from the death toll, but the other warden convinced me not to.

And admittedly, I can hardly imagine doing it to Satsuki... I mean, it just wouldn't do any good at all. We have a bit of an understanding, she and I, I think.
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[personal profile] buywithme 2012-06-02 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome. It probably wouldn't work for another inmate, but I think that's how you need to approach them all. Look for the reasons why they think it's all right to kill, and look for the thought processes behind those reasons, and then try to find a way in.

I'm sorry that the port was hard for you.