impure_tale: (the marquis disapproves of this shit)
impure_tale ([personal profile] impure_tale) wrote2010-04-18 04:52 pm

General Notice

Admiral, Iago's bed and books are to be removed from his chambers. A simple straw mattress will suffice.

Monsieur Sofer, if you are still experiencing shortages in the kitchen, feel free to add my Inmate to any shifts he does not already attend, and I want him on nightly cleanup. If he misses a shift, he is not to be fed.

My Inmate is not to be found anywhere within the vicinity of either the Master, or Judas Iscariot, without my prior sanction.

[identity profile] heavenonthemind.livejournal.com 2010-04-18 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Then I will come to see him.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-18 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Stop being an obstinate child.

If the two of you had been mature about this from the beginning, it would have been a week's punishment, with visits to be supervised, and then you would have been done.

You're not inspiring me to end this any sooner.

[identity profile] heavenonthemind.livejournal.com 2010-04-18 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
You would not let me see him period. That is what I have read. I have reasons for my anger and you continue to ignore them.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-18 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
It is likely because Iago would not speak of his deeds publicly where you could read them and insisted on private comments. He answered some questions, I permitted visitation -- on the condition that he tether public apologies, which as you can see he openly refused to do.

What have I ignored? I am under the impression that I have responded to you at every turn.

Just because I do not respond the way you want me to, and I do not afford to you the same special treatment the two of you enjoyed under the Master, does not mean I am ignoring you.
Edited 2010-04-18 23:49 (UTC)

[identity profile] heavenonthemind.livejournal.com 2010-04-18 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You would have him say things to upset me.

I want to see Iago, even if just for a few moments. And I will do what you want me to. Be silent, whatever it is.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I would have him be truthful with you. If you love him, then you'll forgive him. That's what love is.

Allowing them to do evil simply because you love them, however, is not.

If he completes a day of service, then with Sexby's approval, you may.

[identity profile] heavenonthemind.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
I do forgive him. I have already forgiven him, but you would not forgive him despite the fact that you should care for him as much as I do. You would have him see me as nothing more than a body to fuck and he sees me as much more.

Then I will sit and wait and encourage him from where I am to do his service.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I would not have him see you that way, Judas. I spoke out of anger, then, and I apologize.

[identity profile] heavenonthemind.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
You do many things out of anger and no one corrects you. I respond out of anger and I am condemned. Do you not see why this would frustrate me?

[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Even I believe they shouldn't be used as leverage against one another. If I see them communicating, I will not stop them.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Oh they do, on occasion. Most times I must correct myself. Believe me that I understand that unfairness.

I had six Wardens in the time I was an Inmate. I'm not a stranger to being treated unfairly.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
If you and the good Doctor had been responsible for as many deaths as they are, would you have continued to make trouble and then acted surprised if you Wardens did not respond any differently to how I have?

[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know how I would have behaved in their shoes. It depends on what I saw to be the greater good.

What I do know is that stripping away the few things that ground some of us to humanity is a piss-poor way of fostering good behaviour. Loved ones should not be used as tools for punishment.

If Morgan responded to my actions in the same way you've responded to Iago's-- and I'm not talking about the work duty or the stripping of luxuries-- I would feel less inclined to follow her. I respect her too much to believe that she would use Billy as collateral against me.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing the Master does is for the greater good, and you're an idiot for comparing those situations.

Right now they've been three years away from this place, and they need time to resettle. If they are constantly together and undermining that in the initial part, it could be damaging, and enough damage has been done already.

If you, Henry, or Billy had spent three years helping a madman subjugate an entire colony of people, tortured and killed countless, and the other of you simply stood back and condoned it? Never questioned? And one never would have acted without the other backing them up?

That makes the two mutually culpable, and that is NOT love.
Edited 2010-04-19 00:33 (UTC)

[identity profile] heavenonthemind.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Did any of them ever take you from someone you loved?

[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I never once brought him into this, so why don't you stop conflating the issue to try to appear right? You asked about death, and I answered, not death PLUS THE MASTER.

You know I've killed people pursuing what I believed to be right. And you know that I've done things that many would consider horrific and unjust. Billy hasn't judged me for it, and in the event of the riot, in which people have died, he did support me. We absolutely enabled each other, and we are in love, not whatever it is you believe it to be when two criminals find in each other what everybody else is entitled to. Had the wardens decided to punish us afterwards by keeping us separated, we would have gotten worse, not better.

You have no idea what's happened in those years. You're just upset that your authority has been undermined. They can make progress without being separated.

Oh, and need I remind you of the mirror flood? You know, the one where they sought to punish the both of us by restricting our access to one another?
Edited 2010-04-19 00:45 (UTC)

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not conflating the issue; the two of you seem perfectly amenable to comparing your situation to theirs. It's fair game.

There's a difference between pursuing what you believe to be right and acting on selfish whim.

I know the things that you have done, but I never doubted your sense of integrity, or that you believed that it would turn out for the betterment of everyone in the end. I never believed you acted maliciously. Iago has -- in his time here it has become especially apparent that Iago at times turns to violence on a whim. Sometimes without provocation. And he has been in a world where that has not only been permitted to go unchecked, but it's been encouraged, rewarded, and nurtured. He has been permitted to live this way, in a place where his actions have no consequence. And Judas has openly admitted, to my face, to enabling that. THAT is why I wanted them apart the first week.

I have never been afraid to tell you I have thought you were wrong in the past, Henry. Even when we were a good deal closer. Even when I was an Inmate. For that reason, I respect your choice to speak to me on the matter now, but I cannot agree with you.

You mean the mirror flood where they sought to punish me by restricting my access to ANYONE, much less a toilet, clean water, and fresh air? Yes, I remember. It's an inappropriate comparison.
Edited 2010-04-19 00:50 (UTC)

[identity profile] major-west.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Because it could just as easily be us in their position one day! None of you have any right to dangle our loved ones over our heads like a carrot on a stick.

Then perhaps you should have stated that in the first place, rather than making a demand that appears indefinite. While I still disagree with keeping them apart like this, a week is a lot easier to stomach than what you demanded in this entry.

And I stand by what I said. I will not enable your demands; if I see them with each other, I, at least, will not stop them.
Edited 2010-04-19 00:59 (UTC)

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I never said the change was permanent. Merely until further notice.

And Iago may see Judas once he has completed his first day of service, as I have also said.

I respect your decision and I understand why.

Private- Added after he's had some time to calm down

[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
If I explain something, will you promise to listen without judgment?

Private

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Of course, m Iago.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Iago did, during the mirror flood.

...Of course I suppose that makes seven.

I'm not taking either of you from one another. I merely cannot in good conscience allow the two of you to be alone together right now.

Private

[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I can see that many people have misconstrued this situation completely. They believed what I told the citizens. They have taken what I said in public to be the complete truth. They do not understand.

Despite what you might think, I didn't have many choices. Ask Judas how many times he had been shot at over the years. Or how many times people had tried to kill him. I know most of those orders came from the Master or the Ministry, so I did what I could to make him safe. I did what I did to protect Judas.

Because if I disappointed him or upset him, who do you think would be the first one to die? And people don't come back.

Now, I will not pretend that I hated being there. I did not. I did enjoy it and yes, I did enjoy the Arena sometimes. I did enjoy the power it gave me.

But please, for God's sake or any other sake you wish, do not use Judas against me. Do you know how many times I almost lost him? It was Judas who kept me from become a monster, Marquis. He kept me from turning into the man everyone thought I was.

Three years I have loved him, yes. But only a fool would think that I don't need him now, in this terrible time. Only a fool would think that I could tolerate being separated from him now, when I need him the most.

Private

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
...Iago, you haven't the slightest idea how much I want to believe you.

I don't doubt that a Master in power is a fearsome thing to behold. I saw him. But you also should not have gone. If you hadn't then Judas would not have, and the two of you would have been safe. But you did go. You let the Master steal three years, perhaps not from you and Judas, but from us. Now I don't know how to trust you, and you must give me reason to.

...Finish your first day of service tomorrow, and as I have said to Judas already -- which you can clearly see below, and if Sexby consents then you may see one another. Continue to do well -- and continue these talks with me -- and your visits will become more frequent and less restricted.

Private

[identity profile] inhumandog.livejournal.com 2010-04-19 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I told you already, but you did not listen. I cannot work in the kitchens. The meat, it disgusts me.

The Master's appetite was...insatiable.

But the trust must go both ways, yes? How can I trust you when you would so easily turn to physical violence and emotional torture against me?

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