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impure_tale ([personal profile] impure_tale) wrote2011-02-14 10:46 pm

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Fellow denizens of the barge, I pose to you a question: 

What is your definition of blasphemy? 

I have a book here which defines it, rather simply, as irreverence toward the deities, artifacts, customs and tenets of a given religion. Which I suppose is a perfectly fair and universal explanation. But "irreverent" behavior -- don't you have to belong to that particular religion, or at least to the society that sanctions it, for it to count as blasphemy? 

For instance, most religions that use the Bible or some form of it hold to the notion that "taking God's name in vain" is a sin. Does this not apply merely to followers of that faith? If, say, I were to not be a member of the church (can you imagine?), I would therefore have no reason to hold the teachings of the Bible as sacred. Oui? By that logic, then, if someone were to, say, drop something particularly heavy on my foot, enough to induce extreme pain, then for me to exclaim "Jesus Christ!" should be perfectly acceptable. In turn -- because it's not just about teasing the Christians -- the same would be assumed if I were to say "Sweet fucking Tak!" instead, no? 

Is there a difference, aside from the fact that the religious whining is for once issuing the most loudly from a non-Christian?

This is not about respecting the differences of others -- I'm well aware that I could have made my point without such coarse language. I'm also well aware that if it were simply about respecting differing cultures, a Warden would not have been physically attacked today for "blaspheming" -- over Audio, where anyone could hear it, no less.

Has anything been done about this, by the way? Or were the lot of you simply having a laugh over it? 

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
You exaggerate. A leader, even a religious one, requires some cunning and charisma to give weight to their words.

The point is that with or without religion, people find ways to manipulate, and people will continue to be spiritual, in their own way, regardless of whether or not it is regulated. It serves a purpose -- foolish though it is -- and people will find something to fill that void one way or another.

[identity profile] shortsghtedlove.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
The Pythia was a fool and as charismatic as a a bat. And yet the people followed her simply because she was their religious leader.

We Time Lords have overcome... spirituality long ago. But, I suppose, the same is probably not possible for humans... And what purpose could it serve anyway?

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I imagine all that time spent worshiping yourselves really cuts into the daylight hours.

I suppose it may have started as a need to cope with things that could not be explained, as well as a means to reconcile oneself with death.
Edited 2011-02-15 10:06 (UTC)

[identity profile] shortsghtedlove.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 10:15 am (UTC)(link)
We are simply aware of the fact that we are superior. There is no reason to practice false modesty. But it doesn't surprise me that a human would take offense...

Pointless. If one can't explain something, he should search for an explanation, not make up some deity. And most of the concepts of afterlife I know seem rather unpleasant. The Time Lords simply invented the Matrix; we can be sure what awaits us after death.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't take offense; I am not a person who is easily offended. I just know that I have never met a Time Lord on this ship that didn't have his head so far up his own arse that his breakfast was passing before he'd even eaten it.

Strikes unreadable.

[identity profile] shortsghtedlove.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I can assure you, I have never missed my breakfast for such a reason; nor would I ever consider it to be an option. Besides, you exaggerate. While we have certainly our black sheep - it seems to be unavoidable, unfortunately - we are hardly as bad as you seem to think.

Aside from this, I would ask you not to insult my people. I doubt you have met many Time Lords and neither the Master nor the Doctor most of the Doctors are good examples to judge us by.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You say that as though they are the only two to ever come here. My first Warden was a Time Lord. There have been several Inmates. And then of course there's you.

I wouldn't boast on being the exception to the rule so prematurely.

If your people are so very superior, Monsieur, then they can shoulder so minor an offense as a human calling them what they are.

[identity profile] shortsghtedlove.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Who was your Warden? And stop right there. Neither will I be insulted nor will Omega. Nor the Coordinator.

And I am not the exception; the ones you complain about are.

It is not about being unable to shoulder it, but about the principle of the thing. As I said, I will not tolerate anyone insulting me, nor will I tolerate it when it comes to my... associates.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose you'll just have to, whether you wish to or not. No one is here to bend and scrape at your feet, least of all this human.

Besides, you're all so very cute when you're angry.

[identity profile] shortsghtedlove.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I have my ways.

And I am most certainly not cute, especially when I am angry. It would do you well not to provoke me.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not afraid of you, dumpling.

[identity profile] shortsghtedlove.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
[It's a shame the Marquis can't see the most hilarious expression Rassilon is sporting right now.] You will be soon enough, impertinent fool.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
So excitable. Perhaps the Master being gone won't be such a loss after all.

[identity profile] shortsghtedlove.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Do not compare to that deceased creature. We are nothing alike.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
No. At least he had a sense of humor.

[identity profile] shortsghtedlove.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I have one as well; I simply find nothing amusing about being insulted.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It's always hard when we learn we're not untouchable.

[identity profile] shortsghtedlove.livejournal.com 2011-02-15 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I would not be conceited enough to believe myself to be so.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-02-16 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Of course not.