impure_tale: (goddamnit)
impure_tale ([personal profile] impure_tale) wrote2011-07-23 08:24 pm

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I need a volunteer. Given recent events and the reason for which my Inmate is interred in level Zero, I am finding myself in need of time to recover and meditate. An interim Warden will be required. While Iago remains below levels for the next week, your services will not be needed. For two to three weeks following, however, they will be. If I find that I am unable to come to some...middle ground regarding what has occurred, then I will request that the Admiral find a permanent replacement.

If nothing else, I require a mediator, and perhaps some sound advice.
aforger: (workin like a boss)

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'd be interested. I'm aware of the recent bit between our inmates. Doesn't mean I hold a grudge or will treat him with any malice.

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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
I will bear you in mind. I'm still at a loss for how this matter should be handled.
aforger: (mirror [y:w])

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Does he have a history of acting as such?

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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
In the first year, more frequently. I had... well, I had thought we were well past this. I had every reason to believe progress was being made. Now I am not so certain.
aforger: (see? w/ saito [a:e])

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I trust my inmate that Iago wasn't provoked. Why else might he do this?

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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
I cannot give you a motive, Monsieur.
aforger: (pensive [m])

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Can't or choose not to?

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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
I suggest you not question my integrity, Monsieur.
aforger: (mirror [y:w])

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't mean to. I was only clarifying.
paradoxlol: (Point Man)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
Do you really think this is a good idea?
aforger: (maybe we could share 2.0 [y:t])

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
I have to do something.
paradoxlol: (Default)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
"Something"? [SPECIFICTY, BRO.]

What you should be doing is focusing on Crane, not his killer.
aforger: (CHARM)

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
[Avoiding~]

I can't do both?
paradoxlol: (irked)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Multitasking was never one of your strong points. Answer the question, Mr. Eames.
aforger: (he formulates his own compounds [m])

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
On the contrary. [Nope, it never was.]

I imagine what I do depends on Iago.
paradoxlol: (you can't be serious)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Do the words "conflict of interest" mean anything to you? I'm not going to stand by and let you have control over somebody I had to talk you out of killing just a couple days ago.
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aforger: (arguing with arthur)

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Leave it, Arthur. I won't do anything stupid or which poses any risk to you and I'd appreciate if you didn't interfere.
paradoxlol: (determined)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, your refusal to talk about your plans really lends a lot of credibility right now.

This isn't about me. This is about the fact that it's fucked up to stick an inmate with somebody who's got a clear conflict of interest.
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aforger: (ccht maths | bitch plz [w])

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Not all of us need bloody plans.

I'm certain he'll think the same as you. You needn't speak up to that end.
paradoxlol: (&Cobb: argue)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
You're acting suspicious, and you're dodging the point. I'm speaking up-- for you, your inmate, and for him. Pursuing this is in no one's best interest.
aforger: (losing patience [m])

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
What point is it that I'm dodging?
paradoxlol: (&other: tailed)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that this is a conflict of interest.

Between that and the way you're being evasive about your intentions? When you can only assure me that you won't be "stupid" and won't affect me? It's suspicious. And it's not a guarantee that you're not going to fuck with some guy who pissed you off. This could escalate into a shitstorm.
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aforger: (dream bigger w arthur [y:w])

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Then offer your services.

I want to see to it that he's punished. Nothing more. That doesn't mean killing him or starving him or the like, but a week in Zero is nothing but a vacation for his sort. Use some imagination. Find something better.
paradoxlol: (you annoy me)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
I already did.

"Nothing more"? You wanted to become his warden so you could get revenge for your inmate. Do you seriously not see what's messed up about that?
aforger: (ANGRY)

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[personal profile] aforger 2011-07-24 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
Good.

Don't presume to know me simply because we've worked together. I wanted revenge at the time, certainly, but I've calmed since then. I can be as rational as the next warden and I meant what I said about only wanting to see him punished. Did you miss the bit where I said I had no intention of doing anything stupid? You should understand what that means.

I'd not have succeeded as I have in our line of work if I was bent on revenge at every opportunity. Punishment is revenge enough, if the punishment suits him and isn't another one of those carbon copy jobs most inmates get because their wardens can't be bothered to think up anything.

I understand what you're saying, so hear me: I'll take a conflict of interest if I feel it's the way to get the job done any day while you sit back and drink away your frustrations with the incompetence of the others.
paradoxlol: (&Eames: impatient)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if you've noticed that the definition of "stupid" is wildly subjective, and if this is any indication? The way you were acting suspicious from the get-go, the way you've resorted to insulting my way of dealing with things because I had the goddamn nerve to call you out? Your definition of the word is different from mine.

So let me lay it out in plainly: you're too involved. Back away.

[And he's done here.]
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paradoxlol: (you can't be serious)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Given Mr. Eames is already preoccupied with your inmate's victim, I don't think it would be a good idea to place him as Iago's interim warden. If you need somebody neutral and uninvolved in the current situation, I'll volunteer myself-- unless an unpaired warden volunteers for the job.
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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That is wise council. I...have no real preferences at present. I must consider the matter further.
paradoxlol: (worried)

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[personal profile] paradoxlol 2011-07-24 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Take your time. Just know that if your inmate's assigned to Eames, it won't do anyone any good. He's way too invested in "punishing" Iago on Crane's behalf, and he's not thinking clearly.
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[personal profile] most_feared 2011-07-24 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly think the down time is the best advice. Let someone else deal with him and think it through. Or it's the only advise I can give. I don't know much about the situation between you two.
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[personal profile] most_feared 2011-07-24 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Did he say why he did it?

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[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it that you find what he did unforgiveable, or don't understand it, or is it more dealing with the other people involved?

As there's a lot of things there.

That is, if you want my advice.

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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I consider myself a man of principles. They might not be principles with which every man can agree, but I have them. I keep to them, and I have always held that there are very few things, short of death, that could keep me from my Inmate.

This was a form of betrayal I had thought Iago had more than passed in his time here.

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[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
So it's the fact you feel he betrayed you, more than what he did that you can't get around? Is that absolutely right before I say anything else on it?

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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I know he did not act with the intent to slight me. It is simply how it feels. I simply thought I knew him better than this, but if he is still of a mind that he'll kill on a whim and for no other reason, then I have to doubt every progress he has made.

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[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you absolutely sure that's the only reason he was acting, though? I know sometimes my inmate has told me she's done some awful things because she was bored. There's usually something much more underlying than just killing on a whim - and that might really prove you have got somewhere.


Because, in the end, you have to hope and look for the best in him; and the fact you expect better doesn't mean, necessarily, that he's betrayed you. It means that there's been something there where he has proven himself to be a better man. If you continually expect the worst - that's all he'll show you.

Things go wrong, we can all get our perceptions wrong, and take them wrong. It doesn't mean everything good you've seen in him - you must have seen in him to think he wouldn't do this - is invalid or worthless or even wrong.

If that makes any sense.

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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It is the only reason he will disclose. Immediately after the incident he had little enough thought for it that he was laughing about it -- in my presence and to his friends over the network.

What would you have me do? What would you have me think?

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[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That doesn't mean it's the only one he has. I hope it isn't, but I can't tell from over here.

I can't answer that for you.

But I wouldn't have you give up on him - I don't mean that an insulting sense, as it might seem quite rational to let it go. Because as much as, aye, he probably needs to see how awful and devastating and truly wrong it is. but in the end, you're the one who has to go back and say to him 'I've seen better in you than this, I know that you can do better and here's why'. I would have you seriously look at everything he's done here - good and bad - and find the reasons he should be redeemed, find the parts which have made you think he wasn't the sort of man who killed for fun any more.

Because it's always easy to find the horrific, the nasty, the immoral things our inmates do. At those times, it's alright for everyone else to dwell in that, to hate him, whatever, but you're the one who has to find forgiveness, find the decent part of him and believe in him. Part of that is finding out or trying to understand why this really happened, but also in having some faith in the better aspects of his time here, and believing they're something worth holding on to.

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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
It removes much of the consequence in what they do, if they value their keeper at all.

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[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Which might be a fair point if he'd actually done this to spite you. The consequences of what he's done should have less to do with you and more to do with the people he's hurt. And yes, part of that is letting him know he's let you down.

But giving up on him is basically saying there's no way back from this. Which might just lead him to end up thinking he might as well do whatever the hell he wants now. Part of him being here, surely, is to realise that you can find a way back from where you are.

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[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You've given me much to think about, Sergeant. Merci.

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[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope it's helped. If there's anything else, you know where I am.