impure_tale: (goddamnit)
impure_tale ([personal profile] impure_tale) wrote2009-11-04 09:00 pm

91 - Locked to Wardens

Explain to me why it is that beatings are not a suitable punishment for Inmates.

[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2009-11-05 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Not only because it's morally wrong, but also because it makes us as bad as they are. If you can do it, then any of us can do it. What kind of message does that send to the inmates in general - especially the ones who actually had, and abused, positions of authority in their own world?

If we use violence, it justifies violent retribution on their part too. It justifies other morally rephrensible acts simply by setting a precedent.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2009-11-05 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
You're telling me you were never spanked as a child, monsieur? Not even in school?

[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2009-11-05 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
That's different. You can't punish a man that way.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2009-11-05 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
When the man behaves like a child, I don't see why not.

[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2009-11-06 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Because how do you define 'behaving like a child'? It's not exactly a clear judgement - and if you allow it once, you open it up for others to use the same reasoning. You open it up for inmates to justify their violent actions by the same criteria.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2009-11-06 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
I think that everyone would be in agreement that no Warden here is exactly like the other and the Admiral has joined us with certain Inmates believing that our unique perspectives and abilities will be of some help to our Inmates.

[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2009-11-06 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not denying that. I'm saying that what might be used with legitimate intent for you and your inmate could be exploited as justification by others for doing it with non-legitimate intents. You surely have to be careful what precedents you set.

[identity profile] impure-tale.livejournal.com 2009-11-06 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Aside from myself and my Inmate, I am not responsible for anyone's actions.

[identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com 2009-11-06 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't hold you responsible. I just think not wanting to start on a slippery slope to ill conceived justifications for violence is a good enough reason not to start using it.